Paul Williams faces Nobuhiro Ishida in tonight's Showtime boxing main event. (Photo by Sumio Yamada/Goossen Tutor Promotions)
Tonight at 10 p.m. EST, Showtime goes live from Corpus Christi, Texas, with a double-header featuring former welterweight and junior middleweight titlist Paul Williams facing Nobuhiro Ishida in a bounce-back fight, and IBF light heavyweight titlist Tavoris Cloud defending against Gabriel Campillo.
Early Undercard Results
Chris Arreola knocked out Eric Molina in the first round, then turned his post-fight interview focus on Don King.
Malik Scott returned from a three-year break to beat Kendrick Releford.
In a big upset, Justin Williams (4-5-1, 2 KO) beat Alfonso Lopez (22-3, 17 KO) by unanimous decision in six rounds. Williams dropped Lopez in the second round.
But first at 8 p.m. EST, Showtime Extreme goes live with Barry Tompkins and Steve Farhood on the microphones, and Chris Arreola in a featured undercard bout against Eric Molina in the heavyweight division.
This is a new idea at Showtime Sports, which was supposed to debut last weekend on the rescheduled Ortiz vs Berto II card, but instead will get its first run tonight. It's a great idea that hopefully boxing fans will embrace -- the UFC has conditioned fight fans to care about the entire card by offering more than just their main card fights for everyone to see, and this is a step in that direction for boxing.
Bad Left Hook will have live, round-by-round results for all the action, starting with the prelim show at 8. So join us tonight for more boxing as we wrap up a long day of coverage.
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SHO Extreme is live. Standard def!
Ugh, they’re hyping Malik Scott.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
is show time streaming it online?
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
No.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
In the northeast, it’s on channel 364
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
I haven't watched a ton of boxing lately
But I’m very excited about the deep undercards being televised. I also think Cloud-Campillo will be a technical barnburner.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Scott is so overrated
Releford might pull off the upset here. Probably not, but he’s no pushover.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Last couple times I’ve seen Releford, he’d lost a couple steps.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
That stinks
He’s never had the power to be a real upset threat, but he usually fights close.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Malik Scott (32-0, 11 KO) vs Kendrick Releford (22-15-2, 10 KO) – REPEAT OR REVENGE?!?!?
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Malik Scott is like a slightly less exciting version of Kevin Johnson
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Holy God, apparently Chisora and Haye got into a fight at the press conference. Jesus Christ.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I think I jsut saw two of Scott's tattoos getting into a fight
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
So Scott is in the Havoc pants?
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
….i dont even.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
Ugh, I was gonna do RBR for this, but it’s Malik Scott and there are apparently fistfights between more interesting guys in Germany, so I’m just watching and not doing full RBR until I get something more on that.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Barry Tompkins already best PBP man at Showtime Sports
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Scott 10-9
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Scott's getting the better so far
But Releford is hitting him plenty
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
20-18 Scott
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I’ve never seen Scott before, but he doesn’t look half bad. In shape, solid technique, fast hands, throws in combination.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
How cool is it they are showing these deep undercards for hardcore fans.
Like Brick, I’m pretty excited by this idea. Even if I don’t plan on focusing closely, it’s great to have the option to have these on in the background.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Decent inside action right now.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
30-27
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Releford looked better about 25 pounds lighter
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
I'm not sure I'd favor Scott against Oquendo much less Klitschko
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
But
I’d easily favor him against several guys in the top 10, like Dimitrenko or Thompson. He beats almost any stiff fighter who isn’t a big puncher.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Arreola looks downright in shape right now
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
His head is so skinny now
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
he’s noticeably less ugly, skin is scarred but vastly improved, he looks great.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
How much more likable of a guy is Arreola than Chisora.
I really do want Arreola to do something good. I just like him.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
yes
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
From Chris Mannix:
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I hope there's video
Wlad must’ve been laughing his ass off.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
nice to see they're grown ups
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Chisora’s brave, and reasonably skilled, but he’s clearly nuts.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
yeah, I used to think this was calculated "bad boy" publicity stuff, but now I'm not so sure...
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
he's off his rocker
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
The idea of Wlad standing in a chair like some kid, pointing and laughing at two grown men brawling whilst everyone else is losing their shit trying to stop the guys from offing each other tickles the shit out of me.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
yeah me too
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
WWF
Manuwar - February 18, 2012
Scott looks pretty good given the layoff (not much has changed), but my attention is drifting too.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Sure
But I still don’t like him to be more than a fringe contender. He’s a slickster who might be able to give certain fighters some trouble, but he’ll never beat a true top fighter. A boxer will outbox him, but he can probably outbox the occasional slugger.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
No I don’t think he’s going anywhere either, but for a long layoff, he’s sharp.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
YES! Chuck Giampa tonight!
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Scott is a HW who fights like a mediocre bantamweight
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
79-73, 80-72, 80-72 for Malik Scott
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Giampa… well, he isn’t losing his place and cursing on live TV. That’s a start.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Anyone know whats going on with the Stevenson vs. Gonzalez fight ?
sarangrat - February 18, 2012
Is that Oliver McCall training Estrada?
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
yup
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I am such a big fan of being able to watch deep undercard fights on TV in HD
Even without the HD it would be awesome
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Stupid ass comcast doesn’t have SHO Extreme in HD, but this is as good as a legal stream anyway
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Arreola fighting yet?
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
Arreola looks a bit more jiggly than he was in his last few fights. They said he was 5-10 pounds heavier.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Arreola vs Molina about to start
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
ah ya; I wish I had showtime
darn hbo…………..
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
If Arreola doesn't win this within 3 rounds, it will be a disappointment
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
pretty much.
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
Arreola looks as sharp as I've seen him.
Short punches. Decent power. Using his forearms to block punches. Still not moving his head, which I’ve always thought was his worst point, but I doubt that changes at this age. He’ll never be a threat to a Klitschko, but I’d like to see him against Povetkin.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
or rematch with highlander
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Teddy would never let that happen… or wait… he isn’t with him anymore.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Arreola vs Molina Round 1
Arreola coming right to him, looking for shots. Arreola puts him on the ropes, slaps away with a jab, trying to get him to open up and drop the guard. Body shot Molina, but Arreola with a long right clipping him back. Right to the body again from Molina. He’s trying to stand his ground, but Arreola is bodying up on him pretty easily.
Arreola with a jab, then a right to the body again from Molina. Arreola shooting for a KO. Arreola isn’t wowing anyone yet, but he looks locked in. Right hand from Molina shakes Arreola! Arreola got hurt there. Molina has him on the ropes and he’s throwing! ARREOLA FIRING BACK! Hot damn!
Arreola pushing back and THERE’S A BIG RIGHT AND DOWN GOES ERIC MOLINA!
He will not get up!
Chris Arreola KO-1
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
man, I wish I could have seen that live on tv
reads like a great fight.
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
it was a damn fun round.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I hope it makes it way onto youtube
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
Wow.
Jesus H. Christ - February 18, 2012
Well that was a fun round
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Well bless my soul!! Do love Arreola
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Well that was fun.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
anyone catch the official time?
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Short and sweet--thank you Showtime Extreme
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
I know Arreola’s waiting for a shot at a Klitschko, but I’d love to see him against an Adamek or a Chisora or one of the good Euro heavyweights.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
“Why do you like getting hit?”
“I guess it’s because my dad hit me a lot!”
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
I so hope they interview him
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
And I also hope they play a swing bout
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Arreola: “I think Don King’s a fucking asshole and a racist.” Jim Grey pretends to be offended. I think Grey’s a fucking asshole.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
you have to love Arreola’s interviews!
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
I hate Jim Grey. Probably the most pompous hypocrite in sports journalism.
ColtJouvet - February 18, 2012
Arreola’s right, but what’s his motivation in this instance?
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Oh, ha, I see it below.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
He probably wants an eliminator against a faded King fighter
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Well good thing that this is live and not edited for TV
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Interesting end to the interview.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Wait, what was that all about?
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Did King do something recently? I missed it.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
There’s been a lot of issues between King and the Arreola camp.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
http://www.caller.com/news/2012/feb/16/boxing-promoter-comes-to-town-drops-king-sized/
King referred to Mexicans as ‘wetbacks’
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
sheesh.
ColtJouvet - February 18, 2012
what a piece of shit…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
.. wtf
HUNGRY HUNTER - February 18, 2012
You would think he would know better by now.
I have no problem with Arreola calling him out for this. Screw smug Jim Grey.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
He is a world class douchebag…. I am sure when he dies… he will be waiting to interview people who come thru the gates of hell.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Fuck him
battle axe of doom - February 18, 2012 via mobile
Hello swing fight.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Hopefully Lopez throws more punches today than he did back on FNF. No interest in seeing him fight again unless he ups his workrate
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
shit… no tuckers today!
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Yeah, it’s weird how Tucker’s just gone. Disappeared earlier today, then reappeare, now gone again.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Hmm. Better be better than his last fight
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
He says he needs to be more aggressive. I say Duh.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Justin Williams has fought a blistering schedule for a 3-5-1 guy
schraubd - February 18, 2012
All I want is for guys to let their hands go…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
See Jim? If they’re not like Arreola, then they’re like Tavoris Cloud.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
I loved that interview with Cloud.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Is Tavoris fighting already?
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
No, just short interview. Cloud looks really ready to go though.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Tavoris will be on in about an hour.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
oh, okay… i guess i got confused, thanks
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Woof woof woof
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Woah, Lopez just got dropped by a 3-5-1 guy.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
True, but misleading
Combined record of Williams’ opponents is 69-8-3. And two of those losses were an MD and SD. Not saying he’s a world beater, but better than his record.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
True
I looked him up on boxrec, and I was shocked by how many guys with decent-looking records he fought. Was he an amateur star or something?
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
And that wasn’t a flash knockdown. Lopez got crushed with that. He’s lucky it happened near the end of the round.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
thank god that showtime is showing stuff like this…. great replay as well./
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Boy.
Kelly Pavlik’s last fight just keeps looking worse.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
1st knockdown… omg
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
man what a good third round.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams, 30-26
This is karmic justice for a 20-2 fighter going against a 3-5-1 guy.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
glad to hear it.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
damn right.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
22-2. my bad.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
You got to give props to the Arreloa for the quick 1st round KO, Williams for letting it hang out and Showtime for airing undercards.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
unexpectedly entertaining, I'm rooting for Williams
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Lopez, 39-36 Williams
Williams waiting to counter, but in the meantime eating jabs to the mush by the dozen.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
He can't avoid a punch
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
He has the head movement of a Moai.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
touche
I found this very funny
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
good one
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
If Williams was a little better at moving his head....
Unfortunately, I could see the judges having this fight even, and it wouldn’t be illegitimate
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
10-9 Lopez, 48-46 Williams
C’mon, Williams, go for it.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
I kind of hope Williams wins
But if this round finishes like I think it will, I’m still giving Lopez the win on my scorecard.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
It does
However continue to prove how crappy Pavlik got after his layoff
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams, 58-55
Close round, coulda been a 10-10. Disappointed Williams didn’t go all out for the win the last couple of rounds.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
I had it Lopez 57-56
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
57-56, 58-55, 58-55, all for Justin Williams
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
sweet.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
Williams wins!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Wow
good for him
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Look how happy he is. Love it.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Williams wins!
57-56
58-55 x2
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
That’s what you get for being boring as hell and trying to pad your record against guys with losing records, Lopez!
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Exactly… Justice was served.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Nelson Munse to Lopez: HAHA
good for him.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
That makes me so happy. I mean, from his vantage point he was so close to winning so many close fights only to have it go against him, and he knows everyone dismisses him as a 3-5-1 guy, and then this happens.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
not only that… we got to see it. He can have this forever in his resume that he won on Showtime.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
the comments are making me wish i actually watched the fight. nothing like a nice underdog victory.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
Every punch that has ever landed on Paul Williams is “lucky” according to Team Williams.
Paul Williams says if Ishida “wants his title…” Paul. You don’t hold any titles.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
no point in being arrogant when you’ve gotten waxed two fights straight. why is his team so dumb?
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
I am sure some ABC has some belt on the line… it is 12 rounds right?
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
There are no belts on the line.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
It was announced at the weigh-in that the WBC super-welterweight silver International title is at stake?
Tokyos - February 18, 2012
Did anyone see that Adonis Stevenson crush gonzalez? i heard it was a homerun of a knockout punch.
sarangrat - February 18, 2012
Yeah haven’t seen it. Heard it was nasty.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I wonder how much buzz Bute-Stevenson will get
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Is anyone desperately avoiding Adonis stevens nevermind
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Surprised they didn’t have Gus Johnson “call” the Martinez ko of Williams in that opening voiceover.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Pffft, they just got the graphics backwards.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Gus
That tie and shirt do NOT go together
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
I wished Cloud was coming first
That’s the one I care about
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
I think it is coming first and they just fucked up with the graphics.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Yeah I think he is first.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
It is.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
GODDAMNIT WHERE IS THE VIDYA OF CHISORA BRAWLING
ITS BEEN HOURS
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Oh hey, Cory, I had a question
Is HeadKickLegend even a kickboxing blog anymore? You guys didn’t have coverage of Hari’s farewell, but us guys at Mania did. What happened? I needs my Petrosyan fix.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
None of us are very big into kickboxing the way we are MMA
We just don’t know KB and MT the way we do MMA. We’re always looking for more writers for the fisticuffal (yes I made that up) side, so if you know anyone who’s a good writer and likes this stuff, please, drop me a line. My name at gmail.com
That said, I’ll be attending the MT event on the 16th at the Garden, so I’ll be diving headlong into it
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Ah, good
It’s just that used to be HKL’s domain, really. About 75-80 percent kickboxing and a bit of MMA.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Yea most of the staff left to for liverkick like... a year ago?
I got on board when Roth made the jump from HKL to BE. It just happens that the only group of writers at the moment who took the initiative are all MMA dudes.
I’m constantly trying to work more kickboxing news into it, since that is the general goal, but I just don’t follow it enough, nor do I really know the places to look. Like I say, know anyone who wants to get their name out? Ship it
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
my twitter is full of people laughing about each other for watching klitschko
but they won’t watch “better” boxing the rest of the night
Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. - February 18, 2012
FINALLY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQs8nMsZNg
postfight brawl!
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Damn I love boxing
Eugene Banks - February 18, 2012
he glassed me
Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. - February 18, 2012
Bingo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQs8nMsZNg
Eoin_not_ian - February 18, 2012
Is Campillo any good? I’ve never seen him fight
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
yes
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
One of the most underrated fighters in the world
But a slow starter, and not a style that’s flashy for judges
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
more specific
He’s a fantastic southpaw counterpuncher. I feel like Cloud might give him problems with aggressiveness, but Campillo was able to pick apart Garay, Shumenov and, in my opinion, Murat (twice).
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Oh Lord, this card is in Texas? Why do we bother…?
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Reggie Strickland!
Call him a lot of things, but novice isn’t one of them.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
WOW
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
In the words of my generation:
O_O
Joe Landry - February 18, 2012 via Android app
Wow
NICE punch by Cloud
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Brutal
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 1
Cloud with a right to the body. Campillo getting his circle on to start, obviously ready to look for his counters, which are his bread and butter. Cloud with a jab to the chest. Right hand down the pipe from Cloud, then a left hand follows it. Cloud’s pressure is effective so far — not landing huge shots, but landing clean and clearly bossing the fight.
BIG RIGHT HAND AND DOWN GOES GABRIEL CAMPILLO! Pow!
Campillo back up. Doesn’t appear badly hurt, but Cloud’s trying to finish, and CAMPILLO IS DOWN AGAIN! Good call on the KD by the ref there, and a good job breaking it up.
43 seconds to go. Cloud charging him. Uppercut lands! He’s throwing his hands and Campillo has no idea what to do with him, just trying to shove him away and buy time. Campillo is throwing nothing.
Let me be really clear: Gabriel Campillo can fight. This is SERIOUSLY impressive from Tavoris Cloud
Cloud 10-7
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-7 Cloud
Campillo got rocked.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
That right hand made a fantastic thump
Love that sound.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Can Campillo throw a real punch?
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Not hard
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Great first round by Cloud
And even if Campillo does what I know he can do, that’s probably too deep of a hole for him to dig himself out of.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
This is by far the most impressive I've ever seen Cloud
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
agreed
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
He's landing hard counters
Picking off Campillo. I can’t remember him ever doing this before. Campillo is regularly landing the jab though.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Did we really need Chuck Giampa to tell us what happened in the 1st?
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Yeah, I thought he would get better after tahat disastrous first time on TV but seems the big accomplishment is that he can now talk without freezing up, but not a good analyst anyways
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Yea just seemed random. Like we needed special analysis to tell us why Cloud won the 1st round.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
helluva fight so far
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Campillo turns it around with the jab. Loving it.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 2
Left hand from Campillo partially blocked by Cloud. Campillo now coming forward and throwing. There’s a long left from Campillo, and now Cloud is looking a little off. I’ll be damned, but this is developing into some kind of fight.
Cloud trying to move forward and take back the momentum. he started the round well, but then Campillo got into a bit of a rhythm. two jabs from Cloud, but Campillo throws four back and lands a couple.
Campillo 10-9
Cloud 19-17
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 19-17 Cloud. Like the fight so far.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Hard to believe the last two rounds were from the same fight.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
or at least the latter part of the second round
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 19-17 Cloud
Great comeback round by Campillo. Beautiful jab, fast hands, nice combos.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Campillo did very well the second half
I still gave it to Cloud barely, but barely. Campillo dominated the second half, Cloud the first.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Campillo is such a beautiful counterpuncher. And he’s showing how to be exciting while in a counterpunching style.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
I hate this boxing thing on the screen from twitter.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Now Campillo is dominating
How crazy. Starting to look a bit Pacquiao-Marquez I
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
That comparison came to my mind too.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
its a slug fest.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
impressive combination punching from Campillo
putting them together
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 3
First minute has Cloud trying to firmly take this fight back, but Campillo landing. NICE left and a right uppercut from Campillo. Body shots from Campillo! Combination to the head! Hot damn!
Another uppercut lands. rocking Cloud around. Body shots landing, and HARD. Man oh man. Campillo looking very relaxed and confident now, making Cloud miss. Body shots again. Those things are landing constantly, and landing hard. Right to the body, now Cloud clips him with a home run uppercut, but not flush. Cloud starting to look a bit frustrated by Campillo.
Oh i am loving this one.
Campillo 10-9
Cloud 28-27
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 28-27 Cloud
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Damn what a great fight.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Campillo is so fluid with those combinations.
This is a great fight.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 28-27 Cloud
Man, if Campillo had more power, Cloud would’ve been knocked out already. he’s landing uppercuts at will.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
I hope this lasts for 12 rounds… FOTY type of aura I am getting.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
This fight has my 2 year olds attention. She usually hates boxing
Joe Landry - February 18, 2012 via Android app
Campillo has his timing down pretty good. He may have him figured out.
Duan - February 18, 2012
Wow, thank God the ref didn’t stop the fight.
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
I'm loving this fight
Such a great style clash, like I was hoping. 29-26 Cloud for me, but Campillo is doing very well. I’ve long maintained that Campillo is actually one of the top 3 or 4 LHWs in the world. I think he beats Pascal 10 times out of 10.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
They can both beat Pascal.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
I think Pascal would get KO’ed by Cloud by walking into a punch.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Pascal can take a big shot. Given his style he needs to!
Eoin_not_ian - February 18, 2012
me too.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Well Pascal fights very stupidly… so I believe that…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
10-9 Cloud, 38-36 same.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
38-36 Cloud for me
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Thought Cloud edged 4th with activity.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
me too
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Campillo round again
38-36 Cloud for me, but I could easily see it being even. Cloud was a bit better that round though.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 4
Cloud unleashing power shots again, but Campillo blocking them. Still, he’s got to throw back in those situations. Judges gonna be judges.
Hook to the body from Campillo, doesn’t get all the way there. Campillo stalking Cloud now. Cloud a little uneasy in there. Left down the middle from Campillo. Campillo just pop-pop-popping him now. Double left hook from Cloud, blocked, but gives him a moment to press forward. Right hands not getting there. Campillo kind of making him look rudimentary there.
Very interesting round to score so far. 30 seconds left. Cloud coming forward with bigger shots, but not landing a lot. Campillo landing some counters, but not throwing enough. Right hand Cloud. I’m going Cloud on aggression this round.
Cloud 10-9
Cloud 48-46
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
er 38-36, obviously
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Cloud, 38-36 same
Close round, but Campillo’s activity dropped a bit in that round.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Campillo would do well to start throwing again
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
It’s amazing that Campillo can put combos together so fluidly and effectively and still take time for that very irritating and characteristic pawing at his waistband thing he does.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 47-46 Cloud
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 5
Yeesh, Campillo just not throwing enough the last two rounds for my liking. Cloud is truly winning on activity and aggression right now. That’s enough of a factor to separate close rounds for me, but then Campillo lands some great counter shots and this is a winnable round with 30 seconds to go.
Jab from Cloud, but then Campillo pops him with a three-punch combo. Campillo open for a right hand counter, Cloud just misses. Campillo with a big uppercut, and he takes this round with a great final minute.
Crowd really coming alive.
Campillo 10-9
Cloud 47-46
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Great exchange at the end
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Campillo 10-9
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Starting to get snippy
Cloud round, 48-45 Cloud, but still a fairly close round. Campillo just didn’t do enough early.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
47-46 Cloud
Loving those combos from Campillo. Sweet science.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 47-46 Cloud
Campillo started throwing again, and Cloud has no answer when he does.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
How am I scoring every single round the opposite of everyone else lol
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Round 1 10-7 Campillo?
Going to have a tough time justifying that one, Brick. :-)
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Haha
OK, not that one
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
I have this bad feeling that even if Campillo continues to outbox Cloud, he will get shafted because Cloud is coming forward and this is Texas
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
What a good day for boxing
This is competitive!
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
yeah, quite a few compelling rounds today. Good times.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Cloud, 57-55 same. Campillo can’t quite get over the hump on my card. Though that cut may mean he doesn’t have to.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 6
Cloud cut isn’t good, but he’s not changing his style at all. Ruled not a clash of heads.
Cloud getting busy, but Campillo landing a bit cleaner perhaps. Body shots from both. Cloud gets him to the ropes, Campillo just shrugs it off. One-two shot from Campillo. Cloud ducks a few shots and gets back on the front foot.
Body shot Campillo, but Cloud counters back upstairs with a good shot. Cloud loading up too much, too concerned with big shots and letting Campillo dictate too much of the fight, IMO.
Campillo 10-9
56-56
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Thought Cloud edged out the 6th.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
10-9 Cloud, 58-56
Campillo again not throwing enough. I begin to understand how he finds himself getting screwed on close decisions.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
er, 57-55
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Cloud by just a hair again
58-54 Cloud. Much closer fight than my scores in a way, but I do think Cloud keeps nicking rounds.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Cloud gets started, even gets him on the ropes, and then hesitates. Weird hesitation.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Shut the hell up Gus
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Was just thinking that.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
record that to an mp3, put it on a cd, blare it over the pa system for the remainder of the night.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
I have it a tie. Last round was VERY close.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Cloud can’t beat Dawson, much as I hate to say so. Can’t outbox him.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
No way in hell
But he might be able to outpunch him. Dawson can’t throw when the other guy is.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
apparently Cloud can’t either
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 7
Whoa, Campillo coming out very fast this round, and pushes Cloud back on a series of shots. Now Cloud trying to move forward. This is turning into a bit of a war. Not all blood and guts and brawling, but a boxing war.
Campillo turns it around, peppers away in the corner.
Jesus, Gus Johnson is laying his biggest boxing turd to date trying to call this fight.
Campillo really building momentum. Cloud backed into the corner and getting pushed around in there. Good, good stuff. Cloud just looks lost a lot in this fight. Campillo is a bitch of a matchup for him.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 66-65
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
This fight is being won by whoever is on their front foot. Neither guy is all that effective going backwards (no surprise for Cloud, a little of a surprise for Campillo).
10-9 Campillo, 65-66 Cloud
schraubd - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 66-65 Cloud
When Campillo throws punches, he beats the crap out of Cloud. When he doesn’t, Cloud does okay.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Very clear Campillo round
67-64 Campillo
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Cloud won the last minute but lost the first two. Campillo round.
66-65 Campillo.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
I’d aim for the cut and get a stoppage. Sweet combos.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Ooh, that’s a bad cut in a bad place.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
this is a great fight, really think this is going to be a split decision by the end.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
I have it even at this point with Campillo very much in the ascendancy
Duan - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 8
Campillo with another strong series of shots, leaving Cloud frozen. Cloud trying to work his way into that, but that cut has to be bothering him. Campillo the guy moving forward. BIG jab stings Cloud, and then Campillo lets his hands go with Cloud in the corner. Another two-punch combo from Campillo. Cloud just covering up and eating shots. Big left! Campillo DOMINATING right now, and CLOUD COMES BACK with a couple rights!
Goddamn it, this is a good fucking fight right here.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 76-74
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
same
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 75-75 even
schraubd - February 18, 2012
talk about a back and forth from 90 seconds on till the end of that round.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Another round for Campillo imo
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 75-75
Campillo just ripping that cut open with jabs and great combinations.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
I got it 75-75.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Another big Campillo round
76-74 Cloud
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Campillo is not a “big” puncher, but he strikes me as a “sharp” puncher. Punches that sting, punches that rip open cuts. And punches that you often don’t see coming.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Comparisons to Pacquiao vs. Marquez I come to mind.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Damn right.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 9
Campillo again just way too busy. That’s the real difference with him tonight opposed to normal, and makes me think he can win this fight: He’s fighting aggressively enough to not get overlooked.
Making Cloud miss, landing in combination. Cloud’s head rocked around again. Campillo is way too crafty, too smart for Cloud right now. Cloud is a good fighter, but this is why some of us thought he’d be in hell against even a very old Bernard Hopkins. He’s very basic.
Body combinations and ripping shots to the head from Campillo. another left, then about seven more punches come in from Campillo.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 86-83
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
same
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Campillo 10-9, 85-84 same. Campillo’s first lead on my card.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Another big Campillo round
And the thing is Cloud is doing the best he can. It’s not like he’s doing poorly, Campillo has just figured him out. This is kind of how I figured things might go. Anyway, 85-84 Cloud for me. And I know I have more for Cloud than others.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 85-84
Cloud just can’t get anything going. Campillo just has great footwork, great movement, great angles, never letting Cloud get set and punch, always putting himself in position to throw.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
This is an awesome fight, I’ve never seen Campillo before, but like his style a lot!
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
This is the most pleasing I’ve seen him. This is great stuff.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
He looked like this the second half of the Garay fight
But I’m surprised he’s kept this up for so long.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Campillo does do this weird thing where he turns his whole body away when moving away from danger. Occasionally, it causes him to be hit beyond the back, and he complains about it, but it’s really his fault.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
anyone else buying that campillo is that far ahead of cloud?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
With the 10-7 round it’d be hard for him to be too far ahead.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Wonderful, two judges without title fight experience. Texas gonna Texas.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
this is my fear
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Cloud looking for all the world like Edison Miranda at the moment.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Oh burn!
schraubd - February 18, 2012
I’m seeing Jeff Lacy.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
I could see that.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 10
Man, Campillo is just bossing the shit out of this the last four rounds. He’s owning this fight. Cloud is getting tagged and he’s just not totally in this anymore. He’s trying, but he’s being beaten thoroughly now.
Oh good. Giampa says two judges with no title fights. In Texas. Fuck.
Body combinations. Head shots. Those body shots are just pounding Cloud, though. Cloud with a good right, but Campillo rolls his head with it and marches on. Campillo with another straight left. Cloud looks defeated.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 96-92
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 95-93 same
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Looks like we're on our way to a Campillo title win
right? upset of the year so far?
Curtis2012 - February 18, 2012
Probably not upset of the night
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
no, the deep undercard had a bigger one
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
don’t count your chickens just yet… this is Texas
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo
But just barely again. Campillo didn’t do much in the second half of that round, but Cloud barely landed when he threw. Tie bout for me.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
I so hope this doesn't go like Shumenov-Campillo II
Which was one of the worst robberies in recent memory.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 95-93
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Campillo has taken his career up a notch.
Or two.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
If Campillo avoids a surprise hard right, he might win this.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
This is getting ugly….
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
his hands are real low too
Good for Campillo
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
If they stop the fight, that can only help for Campillo
He’s on a massive roll right now
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Credit to Cloud — he’s basically telling the doc that he’ll knock him out if he stops the fight.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Cloud still wants to fight. Love to see that. Even before the doctor takes a look, Cloud saying, “DO NOT STOP THIS.”
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
OH MAN!
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Who is this Cloud Left character?
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Cloud round for me
I have it 104-103 Cloud. I’m sure I’m the only one who has Cloud up though.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Eh, don't be so sure
I imagine there’s a decent chance at least two judges in Texas agree with you
schraubd - February 18, 2012
well, I hope the judges don't
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
The messed up part
Is that watching the fight, I REALLY feel like Campillo is winning. My cards just don’t reflect that
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
“But what does left have in his tank?” You tell me, Yoda.
10-9 Campillo (though Cloud really came out with a desperate fury after the doc took a look), 105-102 same
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 11
Cloud needs something special on my card. you take away those knockdowns and this is an ass whipping overall.
Cloud trying, but Campillo just starts kicking his ass again. Campillo is tearing him up in there. Cloud getting hammered and backed down again. Campillo is taking him to school.
Referee calling time and they’re gonna look at the cut. Let him finish. You have to let him finish at this point.
And they will let him continue.
Cloud comes away from that trying to land something big, and he’s gotta do it. He’s trying, but Campillo just turns it up and smacks him around again. he’s too good now. Cloud is giving his absolute best and fighting his heart out, he’s just being beaten. BIG RIGHT by Cloud, that stung Campillo. Gus freaks out like he died though. Of course.
Good round. Tavoris Cloud is gonna go out fighting if he’s going out.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 106-101
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
That ref stoppage completely stalled Campillo’s momentum.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Campillo threw that round away
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 105-102
That one big punch doesn’t make up for the couple of dozen Cloud ate throughout the round.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
How I saw it too. I fear the official judges say otherwise.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
cloud gets it because campillo was too busy showboating.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Cloud is throwing a lot but not landing jack
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Yeah that’s basically the story of the fight. Cloud wants to fight and to hit Campillo, and he’s had a good work rate throughout the fight. But Campillo is just too skilled and Cloud can’t figure out how to hit him.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
If I was Campillo, I’d keep punching so that the judges won’t gift the last round to the champ.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Round 12
Cloud coming forward…Campillo maybe forfeiting the round. Such a bad idea. Has he not learned about scoring?
Cloud throwing, not landing, but throwing. Left from Campillo. Little flurry from Campillo. Cloud trying like hell. Just bulling forward. Left from Campillo. Cloud digging away. 20 seconds to go. Little uppercut from Campillo, then a flurry. Campillo wound up taking this one, too.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 116-110
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Cloud, 114-112 Campillo.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Yikes
This is one of the few fights I can remember where my cards have the guy I thought lost the fight winning it. I have it 114-112 Cloud, but watching it I really feel like Campillo won. Just odd. First time that’s ever happened to me.
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
It happens sometimes….
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Side note… pretty good crowd in CC.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
I wouldn’t celebrate just yet. We in Texas after all.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Let's see it Texas
I’m looking forward to seeing Texas screw this up somehow
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Well you got to lower your expectations and expect bad things… They gave Williams the UD… lets hopes they do the right thing here.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
115-111 Campillo for me
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Gotta double on Camp. They better not take it from him
Eugene Banks - February 18, 2012
I have it 114-112 for Campillo. 8-4 in rounds
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
I thought Campillo clearly won this fight. I mean clearly. He schooled him and whipped his ass for the vast majority of this fight.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Those was my feeling as well
Joe Landry - February 18, 2012 via Android app
That*
Joe Landry - February 18, 2012 via Android app
Campillo outclassed him at times.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
I gave the last two rounds to Cloud… I thought Campillo threw them away… I wouldn’t be surprised by a draw
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
10-9 Campillo, 115-111
I could see 114-112. A draw would be undeserved. A Cloud win would be a crime.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
If they screw Campillo here....................
Curtis2012 - February 18, 2012
I have Campillo by 5 clear points. Completely schooled him after the first.
Now watch him not get the judges nod.
Duan - February 18, 2012
I got it 114-112. A draw is probably undeserved.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
SD…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Oh no
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
115-111 Campillo
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
uhoh
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
116-110 Cloud… WTF
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Cloud by 6?!
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
what the hell?
wow.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
114-112… Still champ…. Cloud…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Ouch
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Two Texas judges vote for Cloud. Huge shocker.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Cloud vs Campillo Scores
115-111 Campillo
116-110 Cloud
114-112 Cloud
Tavoris Cloud by split decision
Still IBF titlist
God DAMN it
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
WHAT THE CRAP
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
BOOOOO
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Goddamn it!
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
WTF
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Oh god, sd, wait for it to be tesas
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
TEXAS
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
116-110
LMAO
LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLLOOLOLLOLOLOL
GJ TEXAS
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
That is fucked up.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Knew it. Totally predictable.
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
wow. un-freaking-believeable.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Gotta be kidding.
Im_a_fun_haver - February 18, 2012
Fuck, fuck, fuck….
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
So wrong.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Oh Jesus, Cloud’s mother fainted.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Typical Texas, typical Don King.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
116 110 judge needs a suspension.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
That may actually be the worst card I have ever seen.
Definitely the worst of recent memory/
Duan - February 18, 2012
so we tossing out another 3 judges today?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Just two this time
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Just two
Judge from Minnesota got it right
schraubd - February 18, 2012
no, one got it right
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Fuck This Sport Sometimes
116-110 for Cloud,WTF????
Curtis2012 - February 18, 2012
i cannot wait for this.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Revolting. I hate boxing
I'm going slightly mad - February 18, 2012
DEAR LORD
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Come on Jim Gray, give him him the business.
Sean Mills - February 18, 2012
Even Cloud’s mom didn’t believe it. :/
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Wow.
Eoin_not_ian - February 18, 2012
Par for the course
I’d more more shocked or surprised if the house fighter actually lost. Par for the course and another reason I’ve lost the faith . Therer have been literally dozens of decisions like thos over the past couple of years.
JC40 - February 18, 2012
Amen
Funeka vs Guzman, Williams vs Lara and Dallas Jr vs Herrerra off the top of my head and all recent
TheBirdsDen - February 18, 2012
I can’t help but think that somehow someway don king stole this for cloud.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Cloud backing up more than he ever has in his entire life apparently constitutes being the aggressor in his world.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
Way to not take a punch and win a fight Campillo
Duan - February 18, 2012
Gray is failing right now.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
If Cloud wasn’t American he’d going at him harder.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
One of the times we want Jim Gray to be a scumbag and he doesn’t do it :(
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Cloud must be out on his feet.
Talking some nonsense.
Im_a_fun_haver - February 18, 2012
I agree. He is likely concussed.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Where's Jrok
We need to call the Texas Sports Commission
Curtis2012 - February 18, 2012
*Atlethic Commission
Curtis2012 - February 18, 2012
And do what? Shame them? They don’t have any shame.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
They don’t respond. This is what they do. It’s not like it’s news to them.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Some do. Texas doesn’t. I hate Texas. The minute Lennon said “split decision” I muted it because i knew i wouldn’t be able to stand it.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Eh, hate the Texas comission
Love Texas itself.
We have the best steak in America and I will knife-fight anyone who disagrees.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
We need to talk to DICKY COLE…lol
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
“If he doesn’t die, it doesn’t count.” Gaaaaah.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Holy fuck what a robbery
The two judges who scored it for Cloud need to be fucking banned for life.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
haha he's a fucking asshole. thats pretty epic.
this is getting better and better.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
LOL
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Someone needs to just turn and punch the fuck out of Don King when he grins like that
Preferably a heavyweight and preferably Arreola.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Tell me one King fight where his fighter actually lost on points? There arent any . See Douglas v Tyson for Don at his best .
JC40 - February 18, 2012
very true.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Holy shit. DENNY NELSON is the guy who got it right.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Texas works in mysterious ways...
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
David Robertson
epic judge fail
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
David Robertson — could be wrong, but I feel I’ve seen his name attached to several AWFUL cards.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
“This is what’s wrong with boxing”
yeah a 116-110 yeesh.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
I’m going to quote myself from before this fight:
by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 7:11 PM PST reply actions
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Well...I appear to have missed something.
I was only going to tune into the main event and then my Twitter feed blew up.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Where’s all the experienced judges at?
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
49 other states
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
rim shot!
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
I hope this sick feeling leaves my stomach as soon as possible.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
The king of bullshit decisions is in the main event
We aren’t done.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Since when did Leonard Garcia start boxing?
I don’t want to start any cross-sport bullshit, but NOBODY in combat gets robberies like Garcia.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
Fuck the judges experience. Do their eyes work?
Im_a_fun_haver - February 18, 2012
Yeah
All they see is checks signed by King.
Patrick L. Stumberg - February 18, 2012
David Rodriguez vs. Chris Arreola needs to happen.
TooLegitToQuit - February 18, 2012
or Chisora.
As soon as he makes bail.
Im_a_fun_haver - February 18, 2012
Is Lawrence Cole going to ref the main event?
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
If Paul Williams can win in a non-bullshit way all will be forgiven.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
David Robertson has only judged two fights over eight rounds since mid-2008. Why the hell was he judging this fight?
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Shieeiiit, Paul Williams could get his ass beat all night and still score a split decision win.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
There is an issue with the Sarmiento-trained fighters with the judges. Obviously we have a very limited sampling, but some of the decisions are truly baffling compared from what we see on TV versus what the judges are scoring.
In particular, Sergio Martinez’s draw against Kermit Cintron and the 119-110 card against Paul Williams in the first fight. There’s just something that does not seem to translate from what we see versus what the referees are looking at.
Then again, I’m not one to claim corruption/collusion in these cases. With something this continuous, there has to be some reason that the Sarmiento trained fighters are not translating to the judges ringside. Maybe I’m just still too young and naive, but this is what I’m thinking.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
The issue is that the Sarmiento-trained fighters are not the house fighters.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
Victor ortiz looks like a genuine hobo in that picture
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
I want Ishida to win via SD…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Cloud is pretty much all Don King has left. I have no doubt them 2 judges were paid for
Eugene Banks - February 18, 2012
What fun next week will be....
when Maidana doesn’t get a decision either.
Duan - February 18, 2012
Maidana is there to fuck Alexander up… I don’t think it goes to the cards… If Alexander is standing even after like 5 knockdowns… yeah… he will get the UD 120-108
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Only 10 round fight. So 100-90.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
I think it’s only 10 rounds next week.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Aw… that is bullshit…. what type of main event is 10 rounds?
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
As Matthysse will tell you, Devon Alexander main events.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
Forgot… he is an Al Haymon fighter.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
I don’t think he is?
bachwards - February 18, 2012
yeah i mean, it’s not lkike Maidana is a boxing wizard… if he wins it’s because he will fuck up Alexander
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
im going to say it this way.
116-110 is def a don king decision. The other two I defiantly think they were watching the fights. About 3-4 rounds were close but I ruled Campillo. I still think that a draw would be shocking, that ruling though was just plain wrong.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
I don’t like Chad Dawson. But now I want him to KO Cloud.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
I hate Dawson… he is everything that is wrong with boxing. Doesn’t give a shit, gotten million dollar paydays, isn’t bankable. and think he is entitled to so many things.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
all true, but I’d still like to see him beat Cloud, and he can.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Should we even bother watching the main event?
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
The # of Overhands connected on Williams should be interesting
Curtis2012 - February 18, 2012
I’m so disgusted I’m just following the thread.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Anyone care to sparknotes me why the three judges were thrown out in AC after williams last fight?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
In short: cards sucked. People got mad.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
For good reason, though.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
No doubt.
But the key thing is this: the NJ Commission WANTED to do something about it. They wanted to punish (and possibly embarrass) their judges. Commissions tend to not want to embarrass their judges.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Three terrible judges from inexperienced judges who should have never been assigned to that fight.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
er, three terrible cards
Williams spent the fight blocking overhand lefts with his face. It was about as disgusting a robbery as you’ll ever see.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
That was a rough bell.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
They can’t even deliver a 10-bell salute right in this miserable state. Bob Wills may still be the king, but Bob Wills is dead.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
That was really bad. They guy hit it like 3 times without a break.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Arg….
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
How many Jeremy Lin references will Gus make during the fight?
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
not more than Teddy Atlas and that other guy from FNF
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Good point. We need Gus and Teddy together. Dej Jam boxing.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
CAN Paul Williams beat the 36-year-old guy who can’t punch? Will he be as BACK as Andre Dirrell and Jermain Taylor?
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Already getting mad about the inevitable “I don’t need to fight Lara again, I’m onto bigger and better things” interview after this fight.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
I want Ishida to win so badly…. but common… he doesn’t have a chance.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Ishida's still not a horrible fighter
Williams should beat him, but he’s a legitimate top 10 – 15 154 pounder
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
After that decision, I need some scotch. Time to break out the Glenfiddich.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
good stuff
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
You need some 151
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
jesus no
most vet partygoers say its a bad idea
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
it’s liquid dog shit
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Well if there is another bullshit UD for Williams.... this is in order.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
that girl is prolly dead
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
Oh I poured myself a nice tidy Maker’s Mark.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
just as nice
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
Good call. I think I need Aberlour A’bunadh to stomach this.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
If William’s chin is fucked up, Ishida can Kirkland his ass hahahaha
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
“Chinks in the armor?”
DATS RACIST
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
lol
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
that was the whole controversy
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
"If its terribly broke, don't fix it." -Paul Williams
Sean Mills - February 18, 2012
“If it’s broke, no it ain’t.”
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
lol'd @ both of ya...
comedians….
Olbas - February 18, 2012
recs for the both of you
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Canelo is promoting this?
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
He promotes Ishida.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
…..thats…amazing.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
teikenelo
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
precisely
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
He was also beating the shit out of him in sparring last September
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
now that’s just funny.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
haha, that’s funny… “my promoter is a 20 year old kid!”
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
if williams doenst lose i give up on life.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
might want to rethink that
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
I just laugh at the idea of lucky punches. Does Paul’s training regiment involve a lot of four leaf clovers?
theninthlayer - February 18, 2012
WTF?
Whitney Houston remix???
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
Words to strike fear in anyone’s heart: “All three from the state of Texas….”
schraubd - February 18, 2012
all judges from Texas.. I’m seriously considering not watching this
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
‘Your judges, all three from the state of texas’
Well shit
Joe Landry - February 18, 2012 via Android app
I expect Williams to look good tonight. This is the type of fight he looks good in.
I don’t think he’s nearly as gone as people think. Just matched against fighters who were better than him/
Duan - February 18, 2012
Williams SHOULD look good against right handed light hitters
I’m guessing he’ll look spectacular here
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
exactly
Duan - February 18, 2012
What I don't get
Is how paul doesnt fight long. His reach is obscene for the weight class and he still doesnt throw long one twos.
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
He was always a surprisingly good inside fighter.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
I know
but its against his nature
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
he's an odd duck
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
His trainer sucks
Brickhaus - February 18, 2012
It’s a very “YAY! YOU’RE LETTIN ME BE MYSELF!” relationship
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
The player tells the trainer how to box deal?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
I think so too
he hypes himself up alot but i heard nothing great about him
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
10 seconds in, Ishida lands his first overhand right.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Good job ref. Let’s step right behind the fighter.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
Ishida is so skinny and looks small compared to Williams.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 1
THERE’S ONLY OOOOOOOOOOONE NOBUHIRO ISHIDA
Left from Williams. He’s pushing Ishida back to start the fight. Another long left. Ishida landed a shot early but now he’s being pushed back easily. Little left from Ishida. I do like seeing two guys with this body type fight each other.
Let me be clear: I really like watching Paul fight. He’s just delusional is all. Not about his career, just about, like, what he does wrong (because they don’t think he does anything wrong). Every punch is a lucky punch.
Paul takes the round.
Williams 10-9
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Williams 10-9
schraubd - February 18, 2012
err um can we award that round to no one?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
So is Ishida on A-Side Meth? Suddenly he’s a KO machine?
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Dammit, Gus, you assured me that Ishida would KO Williams in R1.
10-9 Williams.
The Boxer Rebellion - February 18, 2012 via mobile
Gus is an idiot… I am surprised he has not mentioned HOF about his partner.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
if you mean Al, he did…at the beginning of the brodcast
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
I have to say I appreciate how blunt Bernstein and Tarver are being with respect to the decision from the first fight. The HBO guys would be busy trying to justify it or simply sweeping it under the rug.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
well crap.
lost the feed at my place.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
from where
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
Showtime.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
drats
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
“You’d think the referee would address the cup.” You’d think so, but … we’re in Texas
schraubd - February 18, 2012
And Williams’ pants are falling down.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
him and dawson's
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
Williams is SAGGING right now
STYLISH
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
20-18 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 2
Williams’ fucking pants are gonna fall off. Texas.
Paul Williams is wearing body armor in the form of a cup.
Ishida doing OK this round, but Williams is winning the fight right now. Finally the referee pulls Paul’s pants up. Left to the body from Williams. OK fight so far.
Williams 10-9
Williams 20-18
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams, 20-18
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Williams 10-9, 20-18. But a nice pace. Ishida is completely in this.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Ishida backs straight up on the ropes. Very open for straight left.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Ishida goes down after his foot his stepped on, which is very difficult to spot, ref correctly calls no knockdown. So good job ref!
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Refs have been good so far. Knock on wood.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
20-17 Ishida
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
I see what you did thar.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Williams is doing okay
But it’s hard for me to take him seriously as a contender anymore after the last two or three fights.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
good news I can finally see whats going on.
Feed has no sound… interesting to watch this thing go down if we never have sound from the commentators.. and as I say that the sound came back. Damn you cablevision.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 3
Williams comes out fast and is throwing a lot of leather. Feet tangled up and Ishida falls. Paul has some snap on his punches, and his jab looks sharp. Straight left. BIG straight left from Paul. He’s finding a home for that.
Physically he looks good. His punches are accurate, his workrate is as usual very good. He doesn’t look bad at all, doesn’t look rusty, doesn’t look tentative. Gus says he looks fresh, and I agree.
NICE left hook from Ishida and Paul’s head rocked there. Well then. Straight right from Ishida. Right hook Williams.
Williams 10-9
Williams 30-27
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9, 30-27 Williams
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Williams was hurt at the end of 3rd.
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
Eh, I’ll throw that one Ishida’s way. 10-9 Ishida, 29-28 Williams
schraubd - February 18, 2012
30-27 Williams, although Ishida hurt him.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Ishida hurt Williams… no offense to Ishida… but he isn’t a power puncher.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
James Kirkland would disagree.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Am I the only one who watched that fight? Kirkland was hideous. He did nothing right. He could barely walk without tripping.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Nah, I chalk that up to James Kirkland being terrible and out-of-shape that fight
Kirkland at his best would decapitate Paul.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Kirkland just really isn’t very good
Duan - February 18, 2012
But this is the guy who stopped the Mandingo Warrior! Just standing up to such power should vault Williams up the rankings!
bachwards - February 18, 2012
Ishida doing good work
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
Does Paul Williams think about anything?
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Just about how lucky anyone is to land punches on him.
Sam5001 - February 18, 2012
lucky punch BULLcrap
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
You know I really don’t lol…he just throws punches and that’s his game plan, unchanging.
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
Keep up those lefts, kid.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Good round.
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 4
Paul staying busy, but Ishida cracks him again with a hook about 1:15 in. Another left hook. Well, we’ve found our “lucky punch” that’s going to keep landing OVER and OVER and OVER.
Williams hit with a right hand, then another. Ishida roughing him up a bit. Counter right from Ishida. Straight left from Williams, and a good one.
Ishida 10-9
Williams 39-37
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Chuck has a shutout for Paul Williams. He really has taken me inside the mind of a judge.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Ishida 10-9, 38-38
schraubd - February 18, 2012
10-9 Ishida
39-37 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
“it was a lucky punch” needs to become a meme of some sort.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
You should combine the best of George Peterson and Dan Goossen delusions on Williams. “It was a lucky punch, and if you don’t think so, THEN YOU CAN GET OUT”
bachwards - February 18, 2012
oh god that’s a winner. we need to run with it.
The Twillness - February 18, 2012
Williams starting tp moss badly sometimes. Ishida 10-9
Kory Kitchen - February 18, 2012
10-9 Ishida, 39-27 Williams
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Ishida’s actually taking Williams power much better than the other way around
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
What belt does Arreola have? Nathan’s Hot Dog….ah, that was mean…
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
he'd laugh
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
His belt simply says "FUCK" on it
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
was i the only one who thought william could win the 4th round in the last 30 seconds?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Chuck Giampa’s right there with you
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
I gave it to Ishida but still I thought Williams could have stole it.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
I agree completely
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Williams doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as a world class fighter…. at least in my eyes. Ishida shouldn’t be in this fight but I actually have him in chance because of how open Williams is.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Shut out for Paul Williams? It’s like Lara all over again.
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
not really.
BoxAnne - February 18, 2012
Lara was dominating
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
Lara beat his ass. Williams is winning tonight
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Even if Williams wins tonight (which he probably will), Ishida’s demonstrated that Williams’ chin is gone. He’s never going to be what people thought he would be
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Tall gangly fighters don't normally have good chins
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
yeah, but it’s gotten particularly bad I think…
Apprentice - February 18, 2012
Shorts starting to head south again...
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
Oh good, more Williams-Hearns comparisons.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
THERE IS NO COMPARISON EXCEPT FOR SIZE
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
tummy hearns
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
AGAIN WITH THIS GOD DAMN TOMMY HEARNS
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 5
Williams starting the round well, throwing a lot of punches, and now Ishida comes back with some good punches. Good stuff this round from Williams. I thought he was at risk to unrival, but he’s bounced back nicely here. Good left from Paul.
Williams 10-9
Williams 49-46
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams
49-46 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Williams 10-9, 48-47 same.
I wish we’d stop calling Williams/Lara :controversial" or “disputed”. It wasn’t disputed, it was disgraceful.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Boxing people hate criticism. You have to baby them. You can’t treat it like a sport where things happen and that’s the way it is.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Ishida’s wife with the kimono. Old school.
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
shucinda and mai
hit sitcom
Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams, 49-46
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
Ishida has a hot Japanese wife. Well done my good man.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
What can you expect, he’s a hot Japanese dude.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
No homo?
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Nothing wrong with admitting he’s a good looking man
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
no homo
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
AND you
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
This is the one warning you’ll get for using the phrase “no homo”
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
What about in the context of homogenized milk?
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
no homogenized milk
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
If you’re going to talk about how hot the girls are, then you can’t complain if folks talk about how hot the guys are.
schraubd - February 18, 2012
he's no akiyama
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
who is
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Akiyama is the only man I could ever have sex with.
ALL homo.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
MMA guy?
FrontHandMan - February 18, 2012
Big-time.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
and he is like 6’3…to boot…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Williams is punching Ishida's arms HARD
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Roc Marciano. haha
CheCorner - February 18, 2012
Man imagine how good Williams would be if he had a good trainer!
theninthlayer - February 18, 2012
his athletic upside is so amazing that his career so far really does seem like a bit of waste
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9, 58-56 Williams
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 6
I like this fight, really. It’s interesting. Ishida is fighting better than I expected, and good on him, and Paul is Paul. doesn’t look rusty which is good to see. Good round here, I tip it to Williams. I’d have said more, but I was having the “no homo” debate while looking at the TV.
Williams 10-9
Williams 59-55
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
Do you think Williams looks a little chinny? Or is Ishida a bigger puncher than his record would seem to show.
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
It looks like he’s been permanently dented
Sammlung - February 18, 2012
yes, I do
The resistance is the biggest question mark about him from now on.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
But I do think Ishida is a slightly better puncher than I gave him credit for, too — he lands accurately, and throws good punches.
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
He times people correctly… more than he has power.
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
chinny.
IMO
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Agree with the others that he’s dented. I also think that explains any decline in workrate, rather than the idea that he and Peterson somehow worked on being more judicious with his punches.
bachwards - February 18, 2012
not so much chinny as chin-available
Matt Miller - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams, 59-55
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams
59-55 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
"KJ Noons fighting for his life now in MMA"
Give me a fawking break, Al.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
last punch caught williams.
i think 5 rounds to one 59-55. although I wouldn’t doubt a judge has it a shutout.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Let's be honest Al
KJ Noons was never an upper-echelon fighter.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
not even hairwise?
Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. - February 18, 2012
Williams slaps his punches SO MUCH
It’s befuddling because he’s landing good shots
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
whoever that is in the crowd
needs to stfu
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
pipe down, woman. men are doing men things here.
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
Ishida is getting owned inside
He needs to probably take a more conservative approach.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 7
Ishida’s really trying, but being out-worked and out-fought. Paul really dominating inside, too.
Williams 10-9
Williams 69-64
Scott Christ - February 18, 2012
10-9 Williams
69-64 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
10-9, 69-64 Williams
Verklemptomaniac - February 18, 2012
NOES MAH STREAM DIED
Cory Braiterman - February 18, 2012
10-9, 68-65 Williams
schraubd - February 18, 2012
Holy shit, Williams needs to KO a 36 year old journeyman to rise his stock?
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
Pretty much…
Zocalo - February 18, 2012
Ishida hurt him there. interesting I want to score it Ishida for hurting williams but can't
sp0rtsfan86 - February 18, 2012
Williams is owning him in the inside completely
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 18, 2012
Williams does not commit to his punches
Ishida hasn’t been buzzed by any of these power shots.
SSreporters - February 18, 2012
He doesn’t have snap in his punches.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
He also throws from wide angles
So he loses the power when he lands.
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
He did earlier. It has slipped away. The jab has been lost notably.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
I think either boxer lands a clean counter combo it could be over.
Just seems like that type of fight that may end on one big counter punch.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
HA! Gus Johnson addresses everyone else by full name except Lara.
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
I think Ishida is winning this round
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
Ishida is game… I thought he would be KO’ed by now.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 8
Paul coming out hard this round, throwing both hands like a damned hurricane. He’s fighting to impress. Can’t fault that.
Ishida landing a couple, and then a big one gets in. Trying to time him. I think he took this round. Good, active round.
Ishida 10-9
Williams 78-74
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
The thing is we aren’t going to be impressed with a fight where he goes the distance, we will be impressed if he corrects his flaws like getting hit far too often for an " elite fighter"
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
10-9 Williams
79-73 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 19, 2012
78-74 Williams
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
Ishida.
9.5-9. I gave him that round, seemed like another round that easily a judge could rule for williams. still 78-74.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
This fight is actually making me think that Lara might be a lighter puncher than I had originally thought. Ishida’s punches obviously benefit from the lefts that Lara landed on Williams all night, but I don’t recall Williams reacting to them as much as he has to some of Ishida’s.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
10-9 Iahida, 77-75 Williams
schraubd - February 19, 2012
Attention whore sighting.
TooLegitToQuit - February 19, 2012
Campillo is videobombing the fight.
I couldn’t figure out what the rucus was.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
Giampa has it as a sweep
F you.
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
I think it's plausible
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
i do too, honestly. The rounds I’ve given to Ishida were debatable.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
exactly.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
I don’t think that’s nuts. It’s a shutout or close to it.
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
I have Ishida willing but I am from Texas ;)
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Williams is from South Carolina. Ishida is from Japan. I assure you — Williams could leave here via stretcher and no Texan judge would have him down.
schraubd - February 19, 2012
10-9 Williams
89-82 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 19, 2012
10-9, 87-84 Williams
schraubd - February 19, 2012
“Brilliant performance” Gus? Really?
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
Gus is an idiot… don’t listen to him for insight.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
To answer Tarver's questions:
Is Williams in the P4P conversation? No.
Is Williams in the best fighter in his weight class conversation? No.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 9
Williams bossing the round again. Hurt him a couple times this round. Good stuff. Whenever I think Ishida’s getting in it, Paul takes over.
Williams 10-9
Williams 88-83
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
Ishida should just turn southpaw to freak Williams out.
Kory Kitchen - February 19, 2012
To the lady constantly yelling "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!".......
Die.
lildrummerboy - February 19, 2012
i hope someone jabs her in the throat
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
I am sure she had one too many beers…
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
my first impulse
is that she had one zima
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
williams. I have it 7-2 88-83 my dads got it 8-1 89-82.
It’s pretty much a landslide.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
Williams team: “No, we don’t want to be THAT good”
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
tall boxer-puncher? ewwww
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
I think what we're learning from this fight is that tall Paul is still tall Paul.
That sounds like a cliche. What I mean is that he seems not better nor worse than the guy we knew he was. In retrospect the KO by Martinez isn’t surprising. He wasn’t destroyed by it, and it meant less about Paul than we thought at the time. His weaknesses and strengths have been pretty consistent.
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
He's just been a fighter that uses his height but doesnt really have any other outstanding secondary skills.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
I don’t think he uses his height at all.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
Williams fights small and throws um… chingos of punches… he doesn’t fight tall.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
yeah i didnt think that one thorugh.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
wha?
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
Great volume, and impressive infighting skills for such a lanky guy were the other two that spring to mind
schraubd - February 19, 2012
Before we here another Hearns comparison… I think a Bowe reference should be mentioned. A big guy who fought in the inside pretty well.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
It is still perhaps the KO of the decade… my goodness I remember calling everyone telling them about the fight. Hell… it made sportscenter.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
it was very dramatic but less telling than it seemed at the time, imho
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
All it told me, and I thought similar at the time (not trying to sound “smart”) was that that punch Sergio hit him with over and over the first time out can knock him out if he lands a home run version.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
I had a different reaction. My estimation of Paul took a big hit that night.
I think I overreacted. He’s still pretty darn good, though his defensive flaws are (still) glaring..
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
Nothing more than a lucky punch. No big deal.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
yeah you are right… lucky punch…
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
10-9, 97-93 Williams
schraubd - February 19, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 10
If this keeps up, I can say that Paul will be back in my rankings at 154 on Monday (or Tuesday). I have to rank him over Vanes at this point, probably over K9 too. So he might come in at No. 9. Interesting to me and no one else, maybe. But describing this fight isn’t easy, even though it’s a fine fight.
Williams 10-9
Williams 98-92
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
10-9 Williams
99-91 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 19, 2012
Sigh
this fight is such a letdown after what happened earlier today. Very uninteresting to watch
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
I find it very interesting, because it’s telling me a lot about where Paul Williams is right now, which was an open question.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
Personally
I’d much rather ask why the hell I’m out of alcohol than where a gatekeeper middleweight ranks
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
he’s more than a gatekeeper, but hey, whatever.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
do you really ever see him being #1?
#5?
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
Why can’t he be #5? Carlos Molina is in the top five.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
so thats his ceiling then?
If he can’t get to the top, thats the definition of gatekeeper, no?
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
where would you put him?
somewhere above a veteran but below a very good contender?
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
Honestly… should Williams go the distance vs a guy with no resume of note outside of a fluke win vs an out of shape fighter? I mean it doesn’t reflect well on Williams esp since he got hurt by Ishida
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
He got rattled a couple times and nothing came of it. He’s dominated this fight. I don’t hold knockouts up as the ultimate greatness in performance.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
Fact is that we know the same thing before this fight… Williams is done as a world class fighter.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Does Williams have any punching power?
It seems like Ishida is eating a lot of clean shots but not affected at all.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
He loses it over the course of a fight, I think. His punches loosen up.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
even early I don't think he ever truly hurt him.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
He's more of a volume/maybe a TKO kind of guy
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
"The young Japanese fighter"
36 is the new 20!
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
Arg…
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
10-9 Williams
109-100 WIlliams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 19, 2012
10-9. 107-102 Williams
schraubd - February 19, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 11
Williams 10-9
Williams 108-101
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
Ahhhh, man. I had forgotten about Canelo-Mosley.
CheCorner - February 19, 2012
It is a shit sandwich that us boxing fans are going to have to eat.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Gus Johnson is driving me up the god damn wall
He knows nothing about boxing. Nothing.
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
sounds like every mma broadcast he's ever done
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
He should stick to march madness…
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
he should do the world a favor and have his vocal chords removed
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
Yeah, his yelling/over-exuberance doesn’t lend itself to sports where the action is continuous. It suits sports where there’s a TV timeout after every single play in the last minute of a game. Thus why he succeeds with college basketball.
Sam5001 - February 19, 2012
He left CBS. Therefore left March Madness.
SSreporters - February 19, 2012
he really is not having a good night.
My girlfriend has been mocking him relentlessly and hilariously.
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
It’s been his worst performance to date, and I’m already honking the horn on the anti-Gus bandwagon
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
Really Antonio, which big fights is Paul Williams going to be in in the future? He’s not a draw and Alvarez and Cotto are booked.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
Williams-Angulo? lol
CheCorner - February 19, 2012
Slow vs Fast….
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Trout?
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Canelo is a terrible match up for Williams.
He would destroy him.
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
Williams vs Ishida Round 12
Williams 10-9
Williams 118-110
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
10-9, 117-111 Williams
schraubd - February 19, 2012
10-9 Williams
119-109 Williams
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 19, 2012
Williams’ LADY LOVE
Thank God for Gus Johnson.
OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy - February 19, 2012
Kirkland vs Williams?
Matt Miller - February 19, 2012
Why the fuck would Kirkland fight Ishida again
Who gives a shit
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
My thoughts exactly. His 36 year old RIVAL?
CheCorner - February 19, 2012
It is a fluke… no reason to see that fight.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Basically a shutout for PW
You can give one or two rounds to Ishida because he looked better than ours, but PW set the temp the entire time and landed essentially all of the significant punches.
With that said (and I am a PW fanboi), I’m not very impressed. Ishida was clearly outmatched but PW couldn’t get him out of there. Meh.
AP77 - February 19, 2012
Wow, so many typos….
AP77 - February 19, 2012
My feelings to a T
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
120-108 across the board for Paul Williams
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
How long until a “YOU’RE BACK BABY!!!”?
bachwards - February 19, 2012
well a shutout. theres a shock.
can’t argue with it, though. I think that Williams is clueless at to what he thinks he is.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
I know what he is saying…
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Know what I’m sayin????
Williams sounds like complete shit, almost punch drunk
battle axe of doom - February 19, 2012 via mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj-XEHKclY
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
I don’t remember Williams being so incoherent
Joe Landry - February 19, 2012 via Android app
Kinda scary.
CheCorner - February 19, 2012
he’s not particularly well-spoken ever…but yeah not a great speech.
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
He’s really always sort of been like that.
AP77 - February 19, 2012
He sounded like his normal post fight self to me
pretty excited and he talks fast
cardscott5 - February 19, 2012
Chavez and Martinez are the biggest names at 154 apparently.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
Paul Williams “you know what I’m saying” / “you know” count = 21. Ducks of Kirkland = 1.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj-XEHKclY
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Kirkland isn’t big enough
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
Williams looks for big names…and gets NONE. Keep it up Paul!
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
OH! That’s Miesha Tate and Ronda Rousey. I thought this was another crappy Showtime program about Ladies In Situations earlier.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
you should watch
might see an arm ripped off
Cory Braiterman - February 19, 2012
Not enough nuts and guts in that promo.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
The only reason I could see a Chavez Jr bout with Williams is that Chavez needs a big name.
And that is a large large stretch. Williams just simply isnt that good.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
Williams needs Chavez more than Chavez needs him.
Kory Kitchen - February 19, 2012
but is Chavez big enough for WIlliams? Hmmmm???
Sammlung - February 19, 2012
Williams would be by far the best opponent he’s ever faced. And not ever remotely close at that.
AP77 - February 19, 2012
I hate Chavez… but he would walk over Williams esp when he weighs 185 come fight night.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
speaks more to the fact Chavez hasnt faced anyone than williams' skill.
sp0rtsfan86 - February 19, 2012
Interesting fights
I thought Cloud was going to kill Campillo in the first round, but then clearly lost the fight.
Ok rebound for PW. Wonder where his stock would be if he fought Ishida directly after Martinez rather than Lara.
AP77 - February 19, 2012
International hall of famer…lol
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
Come on, Paul. Chavez has his Mandatory with Sergio coming up…Wait, no he doesn’t.
CheCorner - February 19, 2012
yes he does… well that is what the WBC says and they never lie.
Zocalo - February 19, 2012
The sad thing is that Chavez-Williams would be a decent step up from the rumored Chavez-Margarito.
bachwards - February 19, 2012
thread closing in a moment, recap up shortly.
Scott Christ - February 19, 2012
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